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World Exclusive - PXF meets Infinium in fader mashup frenzy
World Exclusive - PXF meets Infinium in fader mashup frenzy
Posted by Gizmo on January 11, 2008 :

skratchworx world exclusive
skratchworx ebsel infinium cliff optifade fader pro x fade cross fader

We love exclusives round here, and what I have to share right here is likely to have some serious DJ technology repercussions in years to come. We're all aware of Ebsel and their Pro X Fade brick shit house cross fader. We're also aware (and I'm one very happy user) of Infinium's faders found in the Mackie d.pro series and Rodec's Scratchbox that use non-contact optical technology. So bringing together these 2 powerhouses of fader technology can only be good for us all right? Yes indeedy - Ebsel and Infinium are holding hands and will be bringing forth joint products.

Firstly, here's the official blurb:
Infinium Technologies & Ebsel Pro Audio join forces

NAMM, California January 17 2008, Infinium Technologies Ltd, makers of the leading design-in digital contact-free faders, and Ebsel Pro Audio Ltd, makers of the leading upgrade fader Pro X Fade, have signed an agreement to work together in the development of a new range of ‘intelligent’ faders.

Utilising the digital and contact-free technology of Infinium and the marketing clout and manufacturing expertise of Ebsel, the two companies are aiming their efforts initially at the DJ market.

The new range of faders feature an onboard processor which will enable user variable configuration of features such as software controllable lag adjust and various new fader settings which can be compatible with most popular DJ/Music based software or used independently. The contact-free technology will increase the life of the fader without the need for constant maintenance.

The unique combination of these features make these products the most versatile and comprehensive advancement to fader technology seen in recent years.

The new products will provide customers superior build quality and advanced technology for use with either analogue or digital architectures.

For more information please visit the Ebsel Pro Audio booth 3294D.

About Infinium

Infinium Technologies draws much of its expertise from its parent company CLIFFGROUP, the respected international engineering company. Launched in 2003, the company spent three years developing and patenting the core technology which lead to the launch of a range of linear digital faders in 2006.

For more information:
Infinium

About Ebsel

EBSEL PRO AUDIO LTD is a partnership between Professional Audio Components Manufacturer’s Seltron and Professional DJ Company, Eclectic Breaks.

EBSEL was developed to enhance creativity, practicality and innovation within the marketing, design, promotions, manufacture and distribution of DJ components and products.

For more information:
Ebsel
Pro X Fade

But what does this actually mean? Well think of a ridiculously high quality non-contact fader that requires almost no maintenance, but being a low profile means it should fit almost every mixer around. Add to that the possibilities of the digital world - all kinds of crazy software control being mapped to the fader such as MIDI. think about software control similar to Pioneer 909 effects and fader control, but potentially in a broad cross section of new mixers. But it's not just the next gen mixers that will benefit - older mixers will also benefit from this combination of technologies.

Right now, there are no products to show or even talk about. This announcement is more about showing the intention to stir up Ebsel and Infinium's technology in a great big melting pot and see where some outside the box thinking ends up. And with the input from software vendors, we could be seeing some crazy nextlevelness coming your way.

Here's hoping good things come from this.


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18 comments to this story

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On January 11, 2008, AgentZero said this:
Holy Crap! weird.gif


ummm. yeah. wow. That's about all I can add.

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On January 11, 2008, markski said this:
The prospect of a digital pro-x fade is worth it alone. Well done Siya, Ebsel, Infinium etc. - here's looking forward to some amazing products.

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On January 11, 2008, ccp said this:
yeah crazy! a mixer is only as good as its cf won´t be true anymore in a few years because everybody can put his favourite fader in each mixer, awesome smile.gifsmile.gifsmile.gifsmile.gifsmile.gif

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On January 11, 2008, marius stens said this:
imo, this is looks like an answer to the innofader.

personally i hate eclectic breaks, most because of their lousy customer service. so i'll be using my money on the innofader. GO ELLIOT.

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On January 11, 2008, X-ACTO said this:
awesome news!! :D

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On January 11, 2008, Audio Innovate said this:
This is a very interesting thread for those interested:

http://www.eclecticbreaks.proboards57.com/index.cgi?board=proxfade&action=display&thread=1139088105

Anyways, looks like we have some healthy competition here... So you guys will all benefit... 8)

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On January 11, 2008, markski said this:
quote:
"personally i hate eclectic breaks, most because of their lousy customer service. so i'll be using my money on the innofader. "


As Giz says, there is no product yet, but as Elliot himself states, strong competition means the consumer wins. Regardless, as soon as the Innofader drops I'll be buying one for sure. It's just great to see grass roots companies that are passionate about the scene like those above still developing great products.

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On January 11, 2008, Siya said this:
Actually this is something we've been looking at for a while and Infiniums technology like our fader is proven and original in the market.

Marius Stens, I don't know where you get your info from regarding our customer service, perhaps you should contact me direct with your problems.

AI & EB have worked together for some years and we share the same philosophy in regard to the advancement of products. AI products are complimented by it's use of the Pro X Fade and we feel proud that we have influenced developments from a direct beneficiary of our marketing, design and innovations.

However going back to the faders, Infinium and Ebsel discussed various ways of development and best ways of implementing the technology. We both felt that the partnership could be both mutually beneficial and would result in a fantastic range of products.

One really needs to understand the scope we have with these new faders, it goes beyond the 'digital fader or non contact' realm. The mixer of the future will be digital and have some kind of software interface much like the 909, so you all know when you select the fx and go to the touch screen and adjust parameters etc, you will be able to do just this for the fader parameters to be fully adjusted on the fly, also OEM's could potentially add extra functions or develop their own software for the onboard processor on the fader.

Yet at the same time, you could just plug and play this into your hacked out 05 and enjoy a non contact smooth fader which won't need the maintenance but delivers the performance across a range of different mixers.

I've been toying with some more 'out there' functions, working with DJ Focus as well, he obviously came out with the Focus fader some years ago and has many great design concepts. We started with simple things like midi compatibility for example will be available so that those Software developers like Mixvibes can get busy aswell.

In fact the Pro X 2 will have the midi functionality as an option for OEM.

One of the biggest factors which solidified our relationship with Infinium was that, what Infinium and Ebsel do is original and innovative designs, not reverse engineering old designs of other people's products.

We spoke in depth with Focus about reverse engineering, as many know Focus reverse engineered the alps fader of the old 05's to develop the Focus Fader and he pointed out the various shortcomings using this method especially when it comes to retro fitting.

Competition is always encouraging and good for the customer but please let's not forget the bigger picture, for us anyway is to provide advancements so that in the future we have more options meaning users need not accept the low standard most manufacturer's have delivered in past years.

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On January 11, 2008, Deft said this:
I thought digital faders were EVIL?

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On January 11, 2008, ccp said this:
the midi-ability thing sounds a bit like an useless gimmick to me but having the oportunity to swap an infinium fader in a lot of mixers would be awesome

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On January 12, 2008, DJ wow said this:
WOw if they make a awesome fader that fits in a low budget mixer, then the manufacturers of those expensive mixers are going to have to drop there prices.
Good move!

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On January 12, 2008, JUs said this:
I hope the midi interface of the PXF 2 or future faders will allow the user to connect with a computer/dvs; this could benefit the non-Serato/Pioneer users and dvs companies by allowing the ability to mix and fade videos with 2 timecode vinyls and midi crossfader. And to think i waited forever for a PXF 2... now I'll just be waiting even longer for a Infinium-PXF

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On January 12, 2008, Siya said this:
The midi functionality is useful for precisely that reason, especially on newer control unit mixers for these DVS systems, there are also various other applications.

Deft, to be fair the technology cannot be denied, it's how it's implemented which I've had issue's with in the past. If you look at the advancements in faders over the years, this is the next logical step.

What companies like AI, Infinium and EB are trying to do is advance with the input of users needs. There are so many developments in other area's, that when a technology comes along and it has proven itself reliable, it's really all about the implementation of that technology which dictates whether one can achieve good results or bad ones.

Our view is to implement this technology in a strong and reliable fader with a perspective of the user in mind and not just budget. We want to make the best faders out there period and it's always about advancing and not just relying on one product.

The King Is Dead, Long Live The King!

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On January 12, 2008, SpAzZ said this:
I can only imagine an infinium/PXF hybrid xfader in a DXM09. 8)

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On January 13, 2008, maskrider said this:
Cheap Mixer meets Expensive Faderidea.gif

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On January 13, 2008, ROGAN said this:
who cares about this new fader, im stoked for the new InnoFader. i cant wait to see that in action. The innofader looked very promising. If it can work the way elliot says than that will be the HNIC around here.

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On January 14, 2008, Chef_Mike said this:
I see on the Infinium site that they have teamed up with Behringer...infiniun + eb + (i can't bring myself to do it)=quality at a sweet price :amazed :amazed we'll see: :

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On January 20, 2009, DETOX92 said this:
I just got the Mackie D2 mixer and the infinium X fader!! IS :love :love :love :love :love love.gif : : : : : SCAAAABLAMMMMM!!!!! :love :love :love :love :love love.gif : : : : :

Highly recommend the mixer and fader!!!







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