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Innofader goes plug n play
Innofader goes plug n play
Posted by Gizmo on February 4, 2012 :

audio innovate innofader pnp plug n play

Audio Innovate's Elliot Marx has a mission, and that is to make his ever popular Innofader fit everything from old school Bozaks to new school Kenwoods. But in doing so, he's made what should be a straightforward installation appear less than a plug and play affair. So having examined what are the most popular installs, he's radically simplified the classic Innofader, and distilled it into a new product. No, I'm not talking about the mini Innofader that we broke a few weeks ago - this is the Innofader PNP.

audio innovate innofader pnp plug n play

Yes, PNP stands for plug n play, and the name seems to very accurately reflect the new rationalised product. The daunting thing with the regular Innofader is the sheer amount of cables and circuitry that comes in the box. That's all gone, and instead the testing circuitry is now onboard the Innofader, leaving a selection of 3 and 4 pin cables.

audio innovate innofader pnp plug n play

To aid with installation, the label on the fader has been changed. It now shows exactly what to do when installing, even down to explaining how easy it is to simply reverse cables or jumpers if the red testing LED comes on.

audio innovate innofader pnp plug n play

Another issue with the Innofader in some installations is insulation. Trying to cram a head of circuits and cables into a space only just big enough is fraught with the possibility of short circuits. The Innofader PNP now includes a thick strip that insulates the open circuit on the back from the rest of the mixer.

audio innovate innofader pnp plug n play

The kit also comes with popular fixing plates too - the regular fits almost anything plate as well as ones for the Pioneer DJM-800 and 900.

audio innovate innofader pnp plug n play

Price wise, this will come in at more or less the same as the regular Innofader. Yes there's less actual gubbins in the box, but the important stuff has been incorporated into the main fader body, as well as a radically simplified installation process. I'm sure Elliot will be updating the Innofader website accordingly to show exactly what the PNP will fit into without a hitch, and which mixers are better suited to the Innofader Pro.

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23 comments to this story

On February 4, 2012, Joe Geronimo said this:
I want to put one in my stanton SK Five

On February 4, 2012, v master said this:
i want to put one in my Vestax PMC-Cx. Will it fit.

On February 4, 2012, Cybertrash said this:
Awesome! Might just get me an innofader now...

On February 4, 2012, DJ WildchidleX said this:
Hey Giz,
I have a Behringer NOX202 which comes wth a 45-mm infinium “contact-free” optical crossfader which I brought because I thought it would be in the same cailber as the Innofader and much less hassle( no install). How does the infinium fader differ to the innofader? Is it possible to do a head to head compare?

On February 4, 2012, hulk hogan said this:
will this go in a rane ttm 52 yet?

On February 5, 2012, Red rooster said this:
Will it fit my breville!?

On February 5, 2012, Eazy Evan said this:
I'm with hulk hogan, I have a Rane TTM 54I

On February 6, 2012, Timmy G said this:
Damn... I just bought an innofader pro like 3 months ago.

On February 6, 2012, Jam Burglar said this:
FYI the "Innofader Pro" will fit in the Rane 54 (and presummably the 52). You have to do a little drilling and soldering but it is compatable.

On February 6, 2012, Audio Innovate - Elliot Marx said this:
The PNP pretty much fits all of the models that were covered by the original Innofader, minus the Ecler Eternal models, but plus the Pioneer DJM-800, Pioneer DJM-900, and Denon mixers DN-X600, DN-X1600, and DN-X1700.

TTM-52, -54 both require the Innofader Pro, won't work with this new Innofader PNP. The instructions are here:

On February 6, 2012, Dimitris said this:
So mr Elliot... I have an original Vestax PMC 05 not the II the one with no reverse button for the crossfader... will the plug n play work for my mixer?


On February 6, 2012, Kaplan said this:
"TTM-52, -54 both require the Innofader Pro, won't work with this new Innofader PNP. The instructions are here:"

Super! Well, who cares about the few Ranes' mixer sold here and there anyway hun? lol, really, as in Lauging Out Loudly! Smart move AI.

On February 7, 2012, dj cross+fade said this:
hell yes im going to save up and drop it in my 707amazed.gifbigsmile.gif

On February 9, 2012, Audio Innovate - Elliot Marx said this:
@Dimitris: Yes it'll work but not to get too detailed, the original Vestax's require a mod to fix the bleeding. I'll be posting info on this.

@cross+fade: You need the Innofader DJM-909 which covers both the DJM-707 and DJM-909.

On February 9, 2012, DIRTYROTTEN said this:
@Eliot Does the Innofader PNP fit the DJM 707? or do we need to get the Innofader DJM-909 for that?

On February 9, 2012, dj crotchfader said this:
y not ditch the innofader and innofader pro and have one universal fader for crying out loud...i feel sorry for the people that bought the regular innofader

On February 9, 2012, Jam Burglar said this:
Hey guys, I'm sure Eliot can give you a full explanation, but retrofitting these crossfaders into old mixers is way more complicated than you might think. It's not as easy as just coming up with a unversal replacement fader and slapping it in your old mixer.

Some of these complaints are like saying "why not make a shirt that fits eveybody equally well?" Well, its freaking impossible, that's why. If it were easy to retrofit a plug and play innofader into every mixer out Elliot would have done that shit long ago. It's insanely complicated to do what he's doing.

The fact that he got the innofader pro to work in Rane 52s and 54s is awesome. It was obviously painstaking because Rane's fader design was a out of the ordinary. There's no reason to complain because the updated version doesn't magically work in there too.

As things develop Elliot's trying to make it as simple as possible to retrofit the fader into mixers, and he's improving the design, but it's unlikely you'll ever get a one-size-fits-all solution. That's not AI's fault, it's the mixer companies' fault for making all of their fader designs proprietary.

And, the fact that a new model comes out doesn't make your old innofader obsolete. Once it's installed its good to go for a long long time (if not forever).

I don't know what it is with a lot of you guys but it seems like you're more interested in having the newest gear than having something that works.

On February 11, 2012, Kaplan said this:
Point taken Jam Burglar. But it's just so frustrating to be left obsolete in front of this great and tempting material. sic. Anyway.

On February 12, 2012, Audio Innovate - Elliot Marx said this:
@dirtyrotten - the Innofader 909 is needed for the Pioneer DJM-707 and DJM-909.

@crotchfader - we actually do trade-ins for DJs who want to upgrade.

@Jam Burglar - thanks for your compliments. The good news for everyone is manufacturers are taking notice and starting to build Innofader compatibility into products right from the start. Even if they want to do their own proprietary fader, many insiders I've talked to realize the value of having a more universal interface.

On February 12, 2012, DJ CirKutCision said this:
So this will be able to fit an a PMC05Pro3 VCA just fine? If so, I'm down for one!

On February 13, 2012, Audio Innovate - Elliot Marx said this:
Yes will fit a PMC05Pro3

On February 19, 2012, Professorbx said this:

The old inno isn't obsolete. It is just another version of the same fader that is simpler to fit. If you buy one inno and put it next to another, unless you cracked them open there would be no difference in feel and cut.

On February 23, 2012, Dimitris said this:
@Elliot Marx - So where can I get the info of what I need to do to add the innofader into my Original Vestax 05? I am really interested into investing into a innofader....

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