ARGHH!! A MAC!!! GET IT AWAY!!!

Yucky.

Although we've seen this all before, it's good to know that they're actually making some progress to roll this stuff out onto the production lines.

does Traktor now when you want to scratch on the Total Control?
I don't see any "scratch on" button..

Personally, I don't like the GUI.

I've been running cue on my mac since I got back from Frankfurt, in fact the bass line from 'OPP' has been running in the background perfectly for the last 3 hours! I love this software and I love my Mac!

I've never been a huge fan of computers for music, but I find Cue to be really engaging. It works incredibly well and the looping and sample options allow for some pretty nice tricks.

I think I'd like separate waveforms or at least the option to view them together or not. But like Westend Boy, I'm loving it a lot. And I'm looking forward to linking it to my decks, controllers and frankly anything with a USB port.

This 'second wave' of vinyl-emulating controllers is really nice, and pretty well priced too. I think we all have to be thinking what took so darned long? So I'm debating picking up one of the systems, or getting a 1st gen system (yes, FS 1.5 have been going for less than $100 on ebay). As a mix DJ, my demands are definitely less processor intensive than a scratch DJ's needs, so good for me and my wallet.

I think the big question is when/if we'll move away from the record/turntable paradigm, but probably not in the immediate future. Cuz no matter how great a mix I make, my wife still says that watching me spin in front of my 12s is 100% better than using a controller or mouse.

Macs rule! Period.

The interesting thing about this all is that it feels in some ways like the industry doesn't know where it wants to go. We have second generation software solutions, are heading up on Gen 1.5 of hardware solutions (HDC-1000 being first Gen, HDC3000/5000/DNHD2500/D2 being more like gen 1.5), but the problem is that companies are not sure what they want to throw their weight behind. Numark has feet firmly planted in both worlds and are doing their best not to tear their pants while doing the splits, Denon is looking to add a HUI to their DNHD for software control, and in the end I think it is a bad move because it forces a split of resources that makes it so you don't do anything the best because you are trying to do everything OK. I think Numark made a good decision buying an off the shelf solution instead of making their own, but I feel in some ways that their money would have been better spent making the D2 actually work the way it should. I think in the end everyone is pretty much trying to grasp on to whatever they can and hoping that they grab onto something that does well.

I'm looking forward to my friends Cortex HDC-3000 review. He also is going to review the Denon HD2500. His Cortex should be in his hands on wednesday!

I'm disappointed. Granted I'm glad Numark is getting out their material from last year but it sucks they didn't add anything new to their stable this year.

isn't it just Virtual DJ???

@ Maskrider

You can change the skin of Cue.

finally!

nice i have it to for the pc wish i had a mac for it tho

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I don't think we will ever move away from a turntable style interface. Otherwise, however interesting or cool it might be, it wouldn't be DJing. It'd be something else. The interface is what makes the instrument. If you play a guitar sound off a synth keyboard you're not a guitarist are you?

You Mac owners are so smug.

Macs are just Intel based PC's no a days, most will run both XP and OSX just fine together.

So the real argument is this...does music software run better on OSX or Windows?

Something else to consider....if someone would port all these apps to linux_X64 they would run even faster ;-)

Anyway....OSX or XP...which is better for music apps?

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Yeah it looks like it uses Virtual DJ software. It even says "www.VirtualDJ.Com" in the bottom right of the program screen.


Kind of lame, but whatever.

I know what is wrong. It is a Numark.

@ Gizmo

Do you know about VMWARE? Has any of you MAC users (or is it only you Giz? lol) tried running any professional XP apps in VMWARE for OS X?

About the MAC/PC issue- I like the way MAC looks, its visually pleasing, however, you can do way more on a pc.

But I still like the MAC looks... peep my desktop screenshot

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/7956/pcormaczn8.jpg

That's a pretty pimped out PC Mike! But it's still a PC pretending to be a Mac. And VMWARe would be cool, but I'm still running a G4 Powerbook. Hopefully the back end of next year will see whatever dual/quad core laptop is available on my desktop.

For the record, my comment was light hearted, sarcastic, ironic etc etc and what you would expect a Apple beta testing Mac evangelist to write. Let's not turn this into a PC vs Mac thing because it's been beaten to death endlessly elsewhere... well everywhere if we're honest. And I'm pretty certain that nobody said "oh yeah you're right - I'm going to sell my Mac/PC* right away". (* delete as applicable).

Cue, like most audio apps, runs in it's own interface guideline ignoring world and really doesn't care what platform it's on. Cue for Mac looks and runs just like Cue for PC or any other platform it cares to be written for. The performance is really down to the spec of the machine and how clean you keep it, not the badge on it.

I think people are missing the point. This isn't a "Macs are better than PC's" thread (though they ARE ) but mearly stating and celebrating the fact that a popular piece of DJ software is availble to all computer users. Until now a Mac user only really had Traktor to play with and that's not for everyone. PC users have had loads more choice. Cue is great because it lets you use video and loads of samples etc.
So as a Mac user, I'm glad to have an alternative to Traktor!

@Reezy: I use Parallels for OS X and it works very well. Ableton and such will work under parallels, just a little slower. And keep in mind that you'll need at least 1 Gig of ram. But why virtualize when I can just boot into windows?

If you do virtualize windows - I recommend installing TinyXP. The gamers ripped out the most unnecessary features of XP to slim it down to the bare essentials. If I'm correct, total memory footprint is on the order of 55MB and total disk space is 400MB.

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Does this mean I can make the jump to Linux?

No shit!!!

I think the next PC I buy will be an Intel based MAC.. and im not even a fanboy?

Why?

Why NOT!

U could run MAC or Windows - pick which OS to load on BOOT...

Problem solved - Professional needs+personal applications..

to reezy: check your PM box when you get a chance

Everyone's talking about running Mac OS on PC's but isn't the whole advantage of Macs based mostly on their hardware?

My Macbook Pro broke!!! One day I was using it and then all ofa sudden it froze and wouldn't budge... Now it doesn't even get passed the gray screen and just freezes. I called the service peeps and they want me to send it in to Apple so they can try and fixx it but I heard some horror stories about getting there laptops back and finding scratches and dents on it...

Is there a Demo version of Cue / Virtual DJ for the Mac out there yet? I see there is a 20 day trial for the Windows version.

how is the actual scratching with cue

Quote Gizmo:
"I have the full version and so far it feels just like the PC version, except obviously way better and of course much cooler."

It feels like the PC version, but just because it runs on a "Intel-Mac" now, it makes it ways better & cooler?

Non-Sense!
Guess you've had a hard day when writing this one.

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It feels like the PC version, but just because it runs on a "Intel-Mac" now, it makes it ways better & cooler?

Non-Sense!
Guess you've had a hard day when writing this one."

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I guess you missed my entire sense of sarcasm, irony and paying homage to the Mac elitist ethic I hold so dear. And for the record, it's running on a G4.